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On every opportunity, a deer hunter must make a choice; is this placement and range ethical?It is ethical if it is within a hunter's ability, properly placed and with a sufficiently powerful weapon.The deer ran off with the arrow penetrated about halfway into the shoulder. Blood started after about 15 yards, was dark, little at first then a steady stream, and got less and less, and then nothing. Many times deer will double back on the same path they took and branch off from there hit the trail again looking for points where it possibly branched off I have seen this happen plenty of times. Pretty sure I heard crashing during the waiting time a few times..coming by from the area I last heard the buck, were spooked and kept looking back that way...arrow was covered what appears to be from a gut shot, due to the pieces of corn on the arrow and stinky film all down the shaft.I even got on my hands and knees looking for blood. Sounds like a lot of these expandables may not have opened which could have been part of the problem. Arrow smelled clean with good blood, but I immediately backed off and will wait till morning. Too many experiences with questionable shots have taught me well. Also if a blood trail is lost look for other signs such as deep bedded tracks, hair, fresh broken limbs or branches that may suggest the deer headed in a certain direction, and kicked up leaves. Left area for a few hours to make sure and will go back to check around lunch to make sure it had plenty of low pressure and time to expire. Must have jerked a tad when I let the arrow a doe at 20yrds the other night hit her right square in the shoulder, found 6 spots of blood 50yrds from where I shot her and no arrow or deer searched all 85acres and nothing, any advice, email me at [email protected] those of you that have had trouble tracking deer I have a couple of suggestions.Having said that, the red dots on some of the trail cam pics are gonna result in a log tracking job. We tracked it to another cross road (large amount of blood) into a field where we can't locate the blood because of course it rained last night. Also remember that from a stand, you need to aim where you want the arrow to COME OUT on the opposite side.At normal stand heights of 18 feet (avg)this will normally put your aiming spot a bit higher.But only if you know for sure it was only a muscle hit with no vitals involved. A deer loosing blood tries to get to water, and will rarely walk up hill. My son has killed a few deer and was perfect on the shot placement. Good Job Website creator and good luck all hunters. (For me anyways)warren, I hit a doe like that last week. I gave up quickly on looking for blood, but a more experienced family member stuck it out with me and we picked up the trail. I know I could play it safe and aim behind the front shoulder, but my question is would my arrow have enough force to break the front shoulder and kill the deer?

Is other hunters we always go out of our way to help another hunter. Thanks for the pics makes me feel more confendent in the woods now. thanks for the diagrams i didnot get a deer last year being my first yea hunting and not knowin where to place an arrow on a deer for the most painless death with out a lot of suffering good luck everyone im going out friday with my crossbow The anatomy diagrams is a great tool to look at from time to time. How far is it possible for a deer to run if it was one lunged? Your 'red dots' are generally ok, but I prefer about four inches to the right if the deer is facing the left. This give you a little wiggle room for error, the deer moving at release, or windage.

Taking that into consideration, and expandable broadhead wont have as much penetration as a fixed broadhead. I stuck a big 9pt sunday 160lbs entered into the lungs and ribcage and caught the faraway front shoulder as it was exititng. Deer still piled up within 50yds but it was a pain tracking from just one .02 Do you think if i bump my draw weight up i can make a change? after the shot and found no blood using a headlamp. I took a shot on a spike buck at 25 yrds out...never found the arrow but heard it hit the deer then the brush. I found the arrow with little blood on it at the vanes and but it was covered in flesh/meat and hair. I was shooting from an elivated position at 20ft so I cut yardage and I couldn't have placed the arrow more perfectly.

After some rain in the afternoon I shot a doe tonight quartering away at 33 yds. 2 blade powered by a Bowtech Guardian set at 70lbs. What are my chances of finding this deer in the morning? It was a bit higher than I wanted but it was a complete passthrough. I tracked the bloodtrail for about .5 mile then it ended. Had a great blood trail for about 40 yards then it just stopped... The arrow had so much momentom that when it came out it stuck in the dirt. For those of you losing blood trails you might not of actually lost the trail.

If I know I have ABSOLUTELY double lunged him, I still wait about two hours before starting the retrieve -even if I see him go down.

Hey, if he's down, he won't go anywhere, but if he's down and re-grouping, pushing him may really make it difficult. You will lose every other deer taking a risky shot like this. A better decision is to wait until the deer turns broadside.